Japanese JLPT Grammar Point
~上で (〜ue de)

~上で (〜ue de)

Short explanation:

Used to express that something is done after or on the grounds of something else; 'after', 'on the basis of'.

Formation:

Verb-ますstem + 上で, Noun + の上で

Examples:

調査を行った上で、結論を出しましょう。
Chousa wo okonatta ue de, ketsuron wo dashimashou.
Let's draw a conclusion after conducting the investigation.
就職活動を終えた上で、進学するかどうか決めます。
Shuushoku katsudou wo oeta ue de, shingaku suru ka dou ka kimemasu.
I will decide whether to go on to further studies after finishing job hunting.
試着した上で、この服を買うかどうか考えます。
Shichaku shita ue de, kono fuku wo kau ka dou ka kangaemasu.
I will think about whether to buy this outfit after trying it on.
経験者の意見を聞いた上で、プロジェクトの方向性を決定しましょう。
Keiken sha no iken wo kiita ue de, purojekuto no houkousei wo kettei shimashou.
Let's decide the direction of the project after listening to the opinions of experienced people.

Long explanation:

The ~上で grammar point is used to indicate that an action or decision is made after or on the grounds of another action or condition. It can be translated as 'after' or 'on the basis of' in English. It is commonly used with verbs in the ます-stem form (also called the 連用形) and nouns.

Detailed Grammar notes:

Processing keyword: ~上で (〜ue de)

Japanese Grammar Point: ~上で (〜ue de)

~上で (〜ue de) Grammar Point

1. Introduction

In this lesson, we'll delve into the Japanese grammar pattern ~上で (〜ue de). This structure is essential for expressing conditions, prerequisites, or sequences of actions. Understanding how to use ~上で will enhance your ability to articulate complex ideas in Japanese.


2. Core Grammar Explanation

Meaning

The grammar pattern ~上で has two primary meanings:

  1. After doing... / Upon...
    Indicates that one action is completed before proceeding to the next action.

  2. In the process of... / For the purpose of...
    Highlights conditions or considerations necessary for an action.

Structure

Formation

  1. When indicating "after doing...":
    Verb Form + 上で
    Verb (た-form) 上で
  2. When indicating "in the process of...":
    Verb Form + 上で
    Verb (dictionary form) 上で
    Noun + の 上で

Diagram

[Action A (Verb た-form)] + 上で + [Action B]
  • Meaning: After completing Action A, Action B is performed.
[Context/Condition (Verb dictionary form / Noun + の)] + 上で + [Main Action]
  • Meaning: In the context of or when considering the condition, the main action occurs.

Detailed Explanation

Usage 1: After Doing...

When 上で follows the た-form of a verb, it means "after doing" or "upon doing" something. It emphasizes that the first action must be completed before the second can occur. Example:

  • 書類を確認した上で、サインしてください。
    • Please sign after checking the documents.

Usage 2: In the Process of... / For the Purpose of...

When 上で follows the dictionary form of a verb or a noun plus , it expresses conditions or factors important for the following action. Example:

  • ビジネスを成功させる上で、人脈は重要です。
    • In order to make a business successful, connections are important.

3. Comparative Analysis

~てから vs. ~上で

Grammar Point Usage Nuance
~てから After doing (sequential actions) Neutral sequence of actions
~上で After doing (prerequisite) Emphasizes necessity of the first action for the second
Example:
  • パスポートを取ってから、旅行の計画を始めた。
    • I started planning the trip after getting my passport.
  • パスポートを取った上で、旅行の計画を始めた。
    • I started planning the trip upon obtaining my passport (implying it was necessary).

~にあたって vs. ~上で

Grammar Point Usage Nuance
~にあたって On the occasion of (formal) Formal expression used for special occasions
~上で In the process of / When (general use) Used for general conditions or prerequisites
Example:
  • 新年にあたって、抱負を語る。
    • On the occasion of the new year, I speak of my aspirations.
  • 計画を立てる上で、予算を考慮する必要がある。
    • When making plans, it's necessary to consider the budget.

4. Examples in Context

Formal Contexts

  1. プロジェクトを進める上で、チームワークは欠かせません。
    • In advancing the project, teamwork is indispensable.
  2. 契約内容をご確認の上で、ご署名ください。
    • Please sign after confirming the contract details.

Informal Contexts

  1. 留学する上で、語学力は大切だよ。
    • When studying abroad, language ability is important.
  2. 仕事を探す上で、資格があると有利だ。
    • In looking for a job, having qualifications is advantageous.

Spoken Language

  1. 引越しする上で、何かアドバイスある?
    • When moving house, do you have any advice?
  2. 健康の上で、睡眠は重要だ。
    • For health, sleep is important.

Written Language

  1. 研究を進める上で、最新のデータが必要となる。
    • In progressing with the research, the latest data becomes necessary.
  2. 環境保護の上で、我々ができることは何だろうか。
    • For environmental protection, what can we do?

5. Cultural Notes

Cultural Relevance

  • Formality:
    ~上で is often used in formal writing and speeches, especially in business or academic contexts.
  • Emphasis on Preparation:
    Japanese culture values preparation and consideration. Using ~上で highlights the importance of prior steps before an action.

Idiomatic Expressions

  • ご理解の上でご参加ください。
    • Please participate with understanding (after understanding).
  • ご了承の上、ご利用ください。
    • Please use this after acknowledging.

6. Common Mistakes and Tips

Error Analysis

  1. Incorrect Verb Form Usage:
    • Incorrect: 計画を立てる上で、資料を集めた。
      • Here, 上で follows the dictionary form but the intended meaning is "after making plans."
    • Correct: 計画を立てた上で、資料を集めた。
      • Use the た-form when meaning "after doing."
  2. Confusion with Other Grammar Points:
    • Mixing up ~上で with ~中 (during):
      • 会議中 means "during the meeting", not "for the purpose of the meeting".

Learning Strategies

  • Remember the Verb Forms:
    • た-form + 上で = "after doing"
    • Dictionary form/Noun + 上で = "in the process of" or "for the purpose of"
  • Practice with Real-life Scenarios:
    • Think of situations where one action is a prerequisite for another.

7. Summary and Review

Key Takeaways

  • ~上で is used to express:
    1. "After doing..." (Verb た-form + 上で)
    2. "In the process of..." or "For the purpose of..." (Verb dictionary form or Noun + 上で)
  • Emphasizes the importance or necessity of the prior action or condition.
  • Commonly used in formal contexts.

Quick Recap Quiz

  1. How do you express "after reading the report" using ~上で?
    • Answer: 報告書を読んだ上で
  2. Fill in the blank: 日本語を学ぶ ___、文化を理解することも大切だ。
    • Answer: 日本語を学ぶ 上で、文化を理解することも大切だ。
  3. True or False: ~上で can only be used with verbs in the た-form.
    • Answer: False. It can be used with the dictionary form of verbs and nouns when expressing conditions.

By mastering ~上で, you'll be able to convey nuanced meanings related to conditions and sequences, adding depth to your Japanese communication skills.

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